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This week on Table Talk: Fruit

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 </div><div class="cilblogholder"><div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">9:45 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hi folks! Back at the top of the hour for a fruit-flavored chat. Seeded, pitted, juicy, thorned --however you want to bite or slice into it -- anything's game. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:01 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;So fruit it is.   There are so many ways to talk about it -- what's local now, what you look forward to, season to season, what you've always wanted to try but were afraid to ask -- let's go! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:02 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From redweather ]<br>my favorite fruit - a crisp empire apple from Fowler's Farms in NY - YUM! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:03 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hey redweather, I too am looking forward to crunching into a crisp apple. Although I must admit, I am thoroughly enjoying   my first full berry season in PacNW. It is unlike anything I've ever experienced. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:04 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;A friend of mine asked me earlier this week if I had ever eaten a jack fruit. I can't say that I have. Any one with a jackfruit experience? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:04 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>I am trying to think if there is a fruit that I don't like. But I seem to like them all. I just don't eat a lot of them because of the sugar. We are lucky to have Gravenstein apples here NOW. I picked some yesterday. Yummy. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:05 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Gravenstein apples -- what a treat, Jill! They are a dying breed, so few trees left.   I could eat an apple (or two) a day... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:06 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Kim, I am jealous of your berries despite having picked some blackberries yesterday. It was almost 100 degrees so picking was not fun. Will have to carve out more time next week and get more to freeze and eat. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:06 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>I spent a few weeks on a farm on Vashon Island that grew raspberries and blueberries.  It was heavenly, so I definitely appreciate the PacNW berry amazement.  It's the only place I've been that looked down on the wild berries growing along the roads because they'd been "polluted" by the exhaust.  It's funny what plenty will do for our pickiness. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:08 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Oh I know, Linear! I have heard just that from people who are from this area. So interesting what our threshholds are.   Friends here are picking blackberries & blueberries like it 's an everyday thing -- I love it. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:08 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Kim, I wish you were here because I could provide an apple or 2 a day from friend's trees and orchards. Slow food is working on saving the Gravenstein. It doesn't travel well, though. But Bay Area people can get it. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:08 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From redweather ]<br>i've been picking blackberries from the side of the road where i run, in a pretty industrial area.... i hope i'm not poisoning myself </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:09 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Jill, I'm   glad to hear that Slow Food is working on the Gravenstein -- part of the Ark of Taste, I presume? They are available in Wash state but in small amounts. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:09 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From redweather ]<br>sadly, the rasberries and blackberries up at my favorite Allegeny NY vacation spot were rotten or unripe because of all their weird weather this year.  :( </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:09 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Berries contain lots of antioxidants which will likely protect you from the pollution. Heck, they may even have a natural filter for it. Do they have protection (thorns) as you know. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:10 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Linear Girl, yes, abundance is a funny thing but I don't usually say no to fruit, especially if I get to pick it myself. Read my blog post about my fruit receiving and picking: <a href="http://bit.ly/29TgD5" target="blank" >http://bit.ly/29TgD5</a> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:10 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Ooh - thanks Jill! I feel like I'm doing my body good when I eat berries. I've been throwing them into salads, using them however I can. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:11 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Hello! Missed you all the last couple weeks. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:12 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Speaking of weird weather -- so PacNW has had a very dry summer and mid-Atlantic & New England very wet summer, which has really hit tomatoes (another beloved fruit) really hard. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:12 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Yes, Slow Food Ark of Taste. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:12 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hey Jackie! Glad to see you on board today! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:12 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Dan Barber's NYT editiorial described it well. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:13 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Jackie, what's it like in Mass? Are you missing your fave summer fruits b/c of the weather? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:13 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>I'd love to hear what other people do with figs.  I'm a newcomer to figs, my guy loves them and introduced me to them, but I don't have a lifetime of experience to draw on when it comes to finding new, fun, interesting, tasty ways to try them. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:14 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Linear, a friend just dropped off a bag of green figs from her tree just yesterday. I love them with a basil leaf and a smidge of olive as a snack. Great with a small amount of gorgonzola... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:14 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Karen ]<br>I have a hard time with fruit.  I've taken to saying that I don't like fruit, because it's easier than explaining, "Well, I like fruit, but only really sweet fruit when it's in season.  And even then, only cherries, nectarines, plums, apples, clementines, and bananas."  Everyone thinks I'm nuts because I don't find berries sweet enough.  Anyone else a little pickier about fruit? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:15 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Karen, my mother is this way, too. She really doesn't like it, either.   have you looked at mixing fruit into salads? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:15 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>Linear girl, re:figs. Really ripe ones are great in a blue cheese/honey grilled cheese. They pair well with lots of white wines and cheese. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:15 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Green figs? Wow. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:15 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I know -- what a treat, no?! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:15 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Making a favorite fruit salad tonight: watermelon, red onion macerated in lime, feta, mint. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:16 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Thinking of adding shaved fennel? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:16 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Yes, Jackie, shaved fennel would be lovely here. Oh, that salad sounds like a feast. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:16 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Karen ]<br>Kim, I definitely put fruit into salads (as in, green salads, not just fruit salads), and I'm a fan.  I also love dried fruit in salads with a strong cheese -- not original, I admit, but a good way of working in fruit for me. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:17 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Karen,   how do you find apples? They are one of Mother Nature's great gifts. As we approach fall, this may be a great habit to get into -- an apple a day. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:17 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>No one needs to eat fruit. You can get nutrition from vegetables if you like them better. But must have fresh food in diet for health prevention and  maintenance. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:18 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>Jaqueline - that's one of my favorite salads. I saw it on Amateur gourmet who saw it on Top Chef.  You? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:18 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Love grilling fruit on my little indoor grill. Nectarines, pineapple (no I'm not a locavore...) peaches. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:19 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From redweather ]<br>hahaha - karen, i feel very much the same way about fruit (although my like/dislike list is different) but i wasn't going to be the first to stand up and say "i don't really like fruit!"  :) </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:19 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Karen, do you like avocado? That's an amazing, nutrient-rich fruit. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:20 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Karen ]<br>Apples I love, and make an effort to work into my day in the fall, especially with peanut butter. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:20 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>I'm with Karen on many fruits. A cottony dry peach is like a January tomato. Not worth it! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:20 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>People say that they don't like the combination of greens and fruit but I make a salad called Sweet Summer Super Salad with stone fruit and a raspberry dressing, and almost everyone loves it. Needs something bitter like arugula for balance, plus cheese or salty olives. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:21 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I adore bitter greens with fruit -- arugula is a perfect match for stone fruit & berries. And with citrus when the time comes. Yay! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:21 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From redweather ]<br>ah - avacado!  possibly the most savory fruit? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:21 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Mark Douglas</strong>: &nbsp;So is Guac actually a "fruit salad"? Hmm? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:22 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hey Mark, I would say so! Have you had an avo milk shake or ice cream? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:22 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Yes, avocadoes are amazing but I limit myself to one a week because they are high in fat. Prefer to have fat as chocolate. thank you. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:22 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Mark: yes, and that makes tortilla chips health food, right? ;-) </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:23 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Oh Avocado is my favorite. Won't eat them out here though because they ALWAYS disappoint. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:23 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Karen ]<br>yes to avocados, too.  Perhaps I'm just paranoid about the fact that I don't like berries -- they always seem to be everyone's favorite.  And I'm not generally picky -- I'm much more open-minded about vegetables. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:23 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Mark Douglas</strong>: &nbsp;Yep, back in the Ice Cream days at Dreyer's, we experimented with them all.   Even my favorite, non-fruit one, "Freezer Burn" (Jack Daniels IC).   </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:23 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Where do you live, Karen? that could have a lot to do with the quality of berries you're getting. And like Jill said, if you're open to veggies, keep up the good work. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:24 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Did you all see the Moskin piece on peppers? The whole fruit/veg mixup was funny to read in the comments. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:24 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Didn't see that one, Jackie. Will have to dig it up. Thanks. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:24 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Can you share that Jacqueline? I'd like to read it. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:25 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Beautiful grilled nectarine salad somewhere recently... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:25 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>I've become a fan of adding fruit to savory dishes - on vegetable curries or fruit sauces with meat.  It's a way to enjoy the fruit when it's not at the absolute prime of sweet ripeness. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:26 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Good point, Linear.   South African curries are often very fruit forward... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:26 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Karen ]<br>dc area -- I'm following you from the post :) </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:26 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Yay, Karen! Thanks for coming over. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:26 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>Here's the Moskin article in the NYT: <a href="http://bit.ly/NRvoy" target="blank" >http://bit.ly/NRvoy</a> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:27 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Laurel guy ]<br>Redweather and Karen--I can sympathize.  My wife loves fruit, but is very particular about which ones.  She doesn't eat berries or pitted fruits.  Otherwise, she's pretty good.  We've found that limiting it to certain categories works when describing what she won't eat. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:27 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>That's funny Mark. Never thought of it that way. Is that what you'll call it from now on? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:27 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>Ooooh avocados are amazing! a whopping 14g of fiber in a whole one! (evenly divided between saturated and unsaturated, btw.) </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:28 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Jill that's a great point. Arugula and other bitter greens work so well as a foil for sweet fruit! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:28 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Organic Marin Cookbook - that's where I saw the Nectarine, Arugula salad. Hold on, I'll dbl check. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:29 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>I think one of the best things about the push toward local, seasonal eating is you're more likely to get both fruit and vegetables at their prime.  I think bad fruit that's picked immature and shipped a zillion miles is the main reason people don't like it.  I mean raspberries are only really ripe and still good for about 2 days - you won't get that in a supermarket. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:30 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hear, hear, Linear.   It is a GREAT example of how local beats out global. Yes indeed. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:30 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>My niece recently grilled avos> anyone? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:30 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Really? Tell me more. Intriguing. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:30 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Yes, Linear Girl, you are so right. When people discover what better produce tastes like they don't want to go back. And it only happens in season, for a short time, as you say. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:30 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>Anyone know if you can get Concord grapes in California? My British husband has never had them and was wondering why grape juice "doesn't taste like grapes." </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:31 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Karen ]<br>grilled fruits always sound so good... is there a way to recreate that when one is sans grill? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:31 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Karen, you can try it on your broiler setting, but you gotta keep close watch... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:31 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Linear Girl - that's why I don't eat avos here in Boston. Impossible to ship a ripe one from where the grow. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:32 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Jackie, interesting you mention that -- b/c ever since I moved west, I've been having much better quality avos than anything I've had on the east coast. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:32 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>In Santa Rosa I can get Concord grapes. Only a few growers have them, though. too pitty for me. I prefer other varieties. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:32 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>jacqueline: I live in the middle of Avocado country. You don't pick them ripe because they don't ripen on the tree. They have to be off the tree to ripen. If you have a hard one, take the stem off, it will ripen faster. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:32 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Don't tell anyone but I ship avocadoes to my friend on Cape Cod. It's not inexpensive but they are very good. She loves them, and me, too, I suspect. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:33 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Karen we got an inexpensive indoor table top grill. Works like a charm. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:33 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Karen - you could also get a cast iron grill pan for the stove top but choose carefully. Many are too shallow or not right material to heat hot enough. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:33 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>I never have tried it but she said it was amazing. I think the fat content would work. But...will there be enough sugar to caramelize? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:34 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Good question, Jackie. I'm thinking you'd need to brush with a simple syrup, or a wee bit of agave... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:34 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>Karen - I second the cast iron grill top. I actually prefer it when grilling peaches or nectarines because they grill so fast. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:35 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Good tip Cindy. I wish that I had an avocado tree but then i'd likely weigh 250  pounds. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:35 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>I live in avocado country in California and I won't buy the Mexican or Chilean ones.  Sure, they're all harvested green and ripen off the tree, but there is still a serious quality difference, even on the mass market  avocadoes of Trader Joe's. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:35 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>But they cannot ship them close enough to ripeness. We get hard or black and very few that are ever flavorful. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:36 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Jackie asked about persimmons earlier. Yay, nay, indifferent? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:37 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>I saw trader joe's had frozen avocado slices. Anyone ever freeze an avocado? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:37 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Cindy, that sounds blasphemous to me! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:37 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>(Karen the grill is DeLonghi - we love it.) </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:37 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>Oh persimmons are so sweet. I think they are good dried as a binder for snacks, granola bars, pie crusts, etc. They don't have a unique flavor.  There's a farm on the central coast that makes divine walnut-persimmon nougats. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:37 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Re: persimmons - many folks have had unfortunate incident of eating an unripe Hachiya Here's more on fall fruits: <a href="http://gourmetfood.suite101.com/article.cfm/pomegranatequincepersimmon" target="blank" >http://gourmetfood.suite101.com/article.cfm/pomegranatequincepersimmon</a> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:38 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I agree, Jackie! When a persimmon is ripe, it's really a unique experience. Meant to share with you -- had local huckleberries last weekend. What a wonderfully local treat. And I've seen ground cherries here at market. Anyone ever taste? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:39 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Oh, yes on persimmons, both hachiya (need to get soft), fuyus and amagaki. Drying the unripe hachiya is amazing. I have neighbors with trees. I am spoiled but wild persimmons grow many places from what I hear. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:39 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Anyone ever make fruit leather? Been curious... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:39 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Persimmons "dont have unique flavor?" You haven't had a good one my dear! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:39 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>TJs also does the pre made guac. It's green and creamy but that's about it! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:39 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>Blasphemous is a good description.  I haven't tried the frozen avocado thing either. Freaked me out, but I would love to be able to pop out only a few slices. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:40 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>I've made fruit leather, and it's good but I don't eat it because it's way too sweet. Once you dry fruit you lose the fiber and get the big dose of sugar. My body can't take that. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:40 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Great to know, Jill. I don't like that you lose the fiber. That's one of the wonderful things about fruit. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:40 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>I grew up with fruit leather.  Mom made it, we ate and loved it.  I've not tried making it myself as I don't have her fruit trees but I highly recommend it. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:41 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>I don't understand, how do you lose fiber in dried fruit? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:41 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Groundcherries are called something else here...gooseberry. That's it. Great pectin and tartness. Perfect for combining with blackberries in pie or jam. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:42 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;By the way, a few really interesting books on fruit -- "Uncommon Fruits & Vegetables" by Elizabeth Schneider & "Fruit" by Nicole Routhier. Both great resources. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:43 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Actually, Jackie, I just looked up in Schneider's book, and she says ground cherries are also known as Cape Gooseberry, which is diff. from gooseberry! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:43 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Well, Kim, you don't really lose the fiber. I shouldn't have said that. You lose the water and therefore you don't get as full when you eat it so it's easy to eat too much. Think about apricots -- each half is a half a fruit. Too easy to eat too many. I stand corrected (by myself)> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:43 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Okay, cool. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:44 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Did you know you could freeze a Hachiya persimmon? It freezes into a custardy treat. Sloppy but good, sppon it right out of the skin. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:45 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Oh! Programming note -- next Thursday 8/20, we'll have a special home canning, preserving & pickling chat! I'm lining up a few special guests as well. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:45 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Oh! Did you see this book? Fruit Hunters?http://passionatefoodie.blogspot.com/2009/08/fruit-hunters-fascinating-read.html </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:45 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>I thought I'd read that Cape Gooseberry Poha and ground cherry were same? Huh. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:45 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;I'm late to the discussion, but am wondering about black currants. I remember drinking the juice daily on a trip to Finland, and loving it, but haven't sought it out here. Maybe at Ikea? Seems strange that it's so foreign. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:46 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Black currants. Hmm. Never seen'em, Kim.   A new for me in PacNW is thimbleberry. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:46 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Yes, Jackie you are correct about the names of the fruit. Yummy all. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:47 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>That's a great point, Jill - I love dried fruit & nuts as a power snack, but I have to pre-bag it so I don't eat much. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:47 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>Kim C, I think black currants are also known as Johannesbeern... when I lived in Switzerland products are everywhere. I saw some jam from them at Cost Plus World Market the other day. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:47 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>LOVE the initiative to redistribute fruits that people don't eat from their trees. I think it was in a major paper. Believe the gal was in Oakland (natch.) </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:48 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I've got a notion to go to coast this fall to explore cranberry bogs out this way. Anyone ever do something similar? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:48 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;Johannesbeern? Wow. I think they're really good for you. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:48 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Can I stretch here and say RIP for a Peach of a guy, Les Paul? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:48 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Aw, I know. It is a sad day. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:49 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;And speaking of peaches in memoriam, Julia Child's 98th birthday is Saturday! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:49 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Cindy, I like your own 100 calorie prebagged idea. I can't just sit down with the whole bag either. Too easy to eat, and so yummy. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:49 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/dining/10Fruit.html?r=1&pagewanted=all" target="blank" >http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/dining/10Fruit.html?r=1&pagewanted=all</a> Oakland Foraging </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:49 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Ooh. I missed this. Thanks, Jackie. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:49 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>OK, I totally spelled it wrong, johannisbeeren </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:51 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;One of the things I loved about living in South Africa was the amazing fruit juices. Before we got hip to unsweetened fruit juice here in this country, they were boxing the gamut of fruit juice -- watermelon, guava, gooseberry, the whole nine -- it was wild. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:51 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>I love the concept of using and redistributing fruits. I heard in Northwest over abundance of cherries means farms are letting them rot on the trees b/c prices are depressed. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:51 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Wow. I knew about the bumper crop of blueberries, but had not heard about the cherries. Amazing. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:52 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jennifer ]<br>Hope I can squeeze in at the last minute.  I just made the rosemary apricot jam recipe that was recently in the Washington Post.  Holy cow, is it good!  I'm mixing it in greek yogurt, oatmeal, served it with pork.  Any other ideas? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:52 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Wowwee, Jennifer. Have you tried on crostini, with a little cheese? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:52 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From redweather ]<br>off topic, but prepping for next week - if i only get one, should i get Ball Complete Book of Home Preserving or Ball Blue Book of Preserving?  Or neither?  Other suggestions? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:53 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Depends on how much you want to spend. The blue book is about 5 bucks and is v. reliable. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:53 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Kim, let me know if you are going.. I've never done it and love food adventure. yes, on the bumper crop of cherries. bought a 3 pound box of organic cherries at Trader Joe's for $5.99. Not as good as local but not bad either. And they were there. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:53 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Guest ]<br>LOVED sarah gilberts contribution the other day, on gleaning fruit and canning, on cansaccrossamerica </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:54 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;Link, please!<br />   </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:55 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Yes! Speaking of which, Canning Across America is a grassroots project I'm a part of -- we are celebrating the revival of the lost art of "putting up" food<br /><a href="http://www.canningacrossamerica.com" target="blank" >www.canningacrossamerica.com</a><br /><br />Check us out! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:55 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>My favorite canning book is Preserving Summer's Bounty from Rodale Press. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:55 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>As an accountant at a large social services agency, I work with our Homeless Shelter and would like to make a shameless plea for anyone with unwanted to fruit to get in touch with those in need in your community to share.  Food bank is another great option for hooking people up with your fruit. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:55 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Goat cheese, prosciutto, arugula and that jam. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:55 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>My neighbors have a lovely meyer lemon tree that hangs over the sidewalk and they never pick all the fruit. They shout at anyone trying to get a few. We tried have a nice convo with them about it, and they won't budge. So now we sneak out in the middle of the night when they are ripe. Should I feel guilty? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:55 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;NO!!!!!! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:56 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>My ode to Julia: <a href="http://jacquelinechurch.com/ldg/1802-fennel-pollen-from-angels-wings-to-your-table" target="blank" >http://jacquelinechurch.com/ldg/1802-fennel-pollen-from-angels-wings-to-your-table</a> (fennel pollen) </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:56 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jennifer ]<br>No but that sounds delish! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:56 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Yes, give excess fruit to those in need. There is enough food but getting it to the right places is key. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:56 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Cindy they are more bitter than their lemons. It's a crime to let food go to waste. We Absolve you! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:56 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>Now I have to make the jam, too.  Sounds too amazing to pass up ;-) </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:57 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;If you'd like more info about Canning Across America, feel free to email me:<br />cansacrossamerica AT gmail<br /><br /> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:57 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;Great idea, Linear Girl, about the extra fruit. Today in the Oregonian, I read about a community garden that was vandalized. It was heartbreaking -- to think of all the work that was destroyed.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.oregonlive.com/hg/index.ssf/2009/08/vandalsdestroyportlandcommu.html" target="blank" >http://www.oregonlive.com/hg/index.ssf/2009/08/vandalsdestroyportlandcommu.html</a>   </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:57 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy -Newtomato ]<br>Haha, I've never admitted my secret to anyone, except a fellow neighbor who does the same. Thanks guys! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:57 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>that apricot rosemary jam brings up another fruit twist: fruits and herbs </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:58 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Oh, fruit-herb combos might be my favorite. I love putting both on pizza dough... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:58 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>thyme is my fave herb. it goes well with many fruits. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:58 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From redweather ]<br>haha cindy - i've been practicing guerilla gardening, and fully support your guerilla gathering! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:58 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>Basil and pineapple with a dry muscat wine! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:58 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>Peach ginger sorbet. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:59 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>yes, fruit and herbs, love it. lavender works well with many. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:59 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>orange mint, pineapple mint, thyme sage, rosemary - all go well with fruits </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:59 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I do a pie with apples, rosemarry & pine nuts and can't make my apple pie any other way. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:59 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Oh yes. Made lavender infused sugar then used that in cherry pie. Mm. Yes. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:00 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Cindy, you did ask. I was told by Peter Reinhart of bread baking fame (and a monk) that sometimes it's better to beg forgiveness than ask permission. You tried and you did. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:00 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Oh, I love that sentiment. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:00 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Pineapple sage and scented geraniums are both great. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:00 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jacqueline ]<br>Been thinking of sweet cherries and cracked black pepper. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:00 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>Thursday is now my favorite food day of the week.  It's official. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:01 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;How fun this hour has been! I think we should sked a fall fruit chat, no? Please come back next week for canning, pickling & preserving! You all have been delicious. </td></tr></table></div>

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