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Table Talk: Aug. 6

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This week on Table Talk: A conversation on food media. What cookbooks (or food books) do you love? What food magazines? What food blogs and websites? Radio shows? TV shows? Why?


If you couldn't make it for the chat, email Kim a question or comment, either email her at  tabletalk \[at\] culinate \[dot\] com, or place a comment below.

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 </div><div class="cilblogholder"><div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">9:51 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hello! We're talking food lit & media today. Coming up at the top of the hour. Pull up a chair! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:02 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I am a food media & lit geek. There, I said it. And the choices continue to expand by the hour, with socia media networks such as Twitter and Facebook feeding us news & info by the nanosecond. Today, we'll touch on the things you love to read to get your fix of food lit & media -- or the things you love to hate. Anything is game, including any cooking related questions. Fire away! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:04 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From littlepika ]<br>A bit off topic, but any thoughts on what to do with 9 super sweet ears of corn in my fridge?  We are only 2 people and 9 ears feels daunting.  Have already made corn chowder, corn salsa, and eaten lots straight on the cob.  Happy to repeat those with a twist though...  Thanks! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:05 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hey there, Littlepika, I am a big fan of corn salad, off the cob, with red onion, herbs, lime, cumin, cayenne and red bell pepper. Goes with practically anything. Thots from the crew? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:05 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>When I want to read about food and cooking, rather than gather ideas for my own cooking, I generally turn to the middle of the 20th century.  My favorites are Elizabeth David's An Omelette and A Glass of Wine, MFK Fisher's How to Cook a Wolf, and a book called Bombers and Mash about the "Home Front" in Britain during WWII.  For cooking for myself, I read through my cookbooks for inspiration.  High on the list are Deborah Madison's Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone and a compilation of recipes from the San Francisco Chronicle - can't remember what it's called.  I'm far more geared to the printed page than to high-tech sources, but this is fun, too. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:06 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Interesting, Linear. I too like to turn to MFK, even for a few minutes. Pull off the shelf. Are there places you like to go for your food news fix? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:07 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;<p>I am a big fan of food magazines, especially Gourmet and Eating Well. And in Portland, we have a great local read called Mix.  </p> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:09 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I love all forms of food media -- but I have strayed away from message boards, mainly because I can't keep up. I always check recipe in New York magazine. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:09 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From littlepika ]<br>Thanks for the corn salad suggestion - do you cook the corn at all or just use it raw?  I have lots of other fun things that might be tasty in it too, peppers, tomatillos, etc.  As for food lit, I second Deborah Madison's Veggie Cooking for Everyone, I find myself turning to that weekly.  But food blogs have become a big part of my inspiration.  Favorite time of day is when I get to check google reader and my "food" folder in the afternoon.  Many blogs have both great writing and wonderful photos... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:09 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;As for corn, I love it in fritters that my mom makes; will try to dig up recipe! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:10 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Yep, I blanch kernels for about 60 seconds, then run uder cold water. There are lots of flavor possibilities. <br />I have yet to do a reader -- my husband is a big fan -- but I think it'd help me organize my day. Do you have any fave blogs/sites? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:11 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jenny A ]<br>Hey, Kim! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:11 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hi Jenny -- what's on your mind today? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:11 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jenny A ]<br>Hey, Kim,  Sorry for the misfire!  What is your opinion on brining meats and poultry?  I'm interested by the idea, but I don't know how much sodium this might add.  Thanks! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:12 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I love to brine turkey -- in fact, that's the only way I'll do my Thanksgiving bird. I've never brined a chicken, but I know it's a beloved method by many. Kim C -- you got thoughts on brining meat & poultry? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:13 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>I like <a href="http://epicurious.com" target="blank" >epicurious.com</a> because I can search based on ingredients and the recipes tend to be interesting (though I never stick to them completely).  Also Cook's Illustrated, both the magazine and online.  Don't really watch it on TV, except at the gym without sound.  I like your blog (shameless flattery) and the one at Laughing Duck Gardens. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:14 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Aw shucks, LInear -- flattery will get you everywhere. <br />Did anyone see Michael Pollan's essay in the NYT Magazine this past Sunday? About the phenomenon of food television -- he arggues that it's keeping us away from the kitchen, not luring us to the kitchen. Thoughts? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:16 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;<p><a href="http://www.finecooking.com/recipes/fresh-corn-fritters.aspx" target="blank" >Corn fritters</a> (not mom's unfortunately) in Fine Cooking mag. Might be worth trying, especially with that charred tomato salsa!</p> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:16 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From littlepika ]<br>A reader is key for me but it is frustrating when blogs don't post full rss feeds (which you do now!  didn't when your blog was at the post).  it helps to allow you quickly decide if it's a post worth reading or not.  Many favorites, but in additions to yours, 101 cookbooks is always reliable, as are so many of the Seattle bloggers (orangette, glutenfreegirl, etc.) I just moved from Seattle to DC and those always make me a little misty eyed.  I also cook alot of asian food, so Blazing Hot Wok and Viet World Kitchen are great for inspiration. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:16 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I tend not to watch food television because I'd rather read -- or get into the kitchen. Not a big fan of the culinary competitions myself -- Hell's Kitchen, Iron Chef, etc. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:18 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I recently heard from a reader who's blind, who relies on google reader to get her daily dose of reads! but she tells me that not all sites are accessible to braille. Had no idea -- great to know, though. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:19 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I'll have to check out Blazing Hot Wok & Viet World Kitchen. Always looking for new sources of inspiration. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:19 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jenny A ]<br>Reality is not why I watch T.V.  And I'd have to argue with him on food television keeping me out of the kitchen.  I love to try recipes that I've seen on shows, (granted they are mostly on PBS), I have tried a number of Alton Brown's recipes. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:19 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;Kim, one of my favorite points in the Pollan essay (or maybe it was in his discussion on Fresh Air) was when he was referring to the book Catching Fire — which says cooking itself may have made us, well, human. It's an essential part of being human, in other words. Which is why we love watching it on TV. And in turn, by not doing it ourselves, we lose something vital. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:20 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;But Jenny, sounds like the recipes you'll recreate are from cooking -- versus food-- shows, no? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:20 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From littlepika ]<br>I don't watch much, but find the shows on PBS to be much more engaging than those on Food Network.  More real and less hype-y.  Generally though, I agree with that article, the cooking shows share very little with real healthy/tasty/interesting home cooking.  And even the ones geared towards regular cooks seem intimidating. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:20 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>The Food Network does not really teach cooking while PBS is more likely to do so. I watch to zone out, as entertainment and to watch how they are successful at what they do. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:21 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hey Jill, I've been wondering when there will be a day about sustainable cooking. I know there have been small attempts, but it's still a ways away -- and prob. not going to happen on FN. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:22 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;<span><span class="commentmsgtext"><strong>From Lynnette</strong>: <br />Hi Kim,  I hate cooking in the summer.  Last night I made:   Blue Cheese and<a id="guestChatHideLink26933119" style="margin-left: 5px; display: none;" onclick="javascript:launchchat(26933119);return false;" href="index.php?option=comaltcaster&task=playaltcast&altcastcode=fab9cc6832#" target="blank" target="blank" >[...]</a><span id="guestChatHideText26933119" style="display: inline; visibility: visible; opacity: 1;"> Rice with tomatoes Put 1 cup of Sushi rice and the water in the rice cooker. Cook for 30 mins and add 1 cup green cherry tomatoes (Picked out of the garden) Cook for the rest of the time (15 - 20 mins) Add 1 cup ripe cherry tomatoes, 3 - 4 oz of blue cheese, 1/4 cup rice vinegar. Stir and serve with black finishing salt or other salt What are your favorite too hot to cook dinners? Thanks, Lynette PS: Miss you in the Post!</span></span></span> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:23 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hey Lynette, thanks for sharing your hot-weather treat. Keep those recipes coming. By the way, you can find me at <a href="http://trueslant.com/kimodonnel" target="blank" >trueslant.com/kimodonnel</a> <br />I'm writing at least 3x week. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:23 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Most TV chefs don't do what I call "real" cooking. My cooking demos are "real" cooking because things always happen that I hadn't planned. And also you cannot cook with what you don't have. Not enough teaching moments on most of them. Just beautiful and sometimes intimidating food. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:24 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I agree! I once met with FN execs who invited me to talk about ideas for a show. They pretty much told me me they weren't interested in educational programming. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:24 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Panzanella (Italian bread salad) is a great summer dish that uses ripe tomatoes. Yummy and easy, although I don't eat much bread. Might recreate with quinoa or red rice. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:25 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From littlepika ]<br>I'd really like to see a show with making tasty recipes out of what you have in the kitchen.  Kind of like EDF... so sick of watching people buy some special (spendy) ingredient that just goes to waste. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:25 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;There's got to be a way to do it & for tv networks to keep making money. I gotta believe that. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:26 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>We are also not likely the FN demographic -- perky with good cleavage (speaking for myself). </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:27 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hahah! Yes indeed. I'm always amazed by how much cleavage there is on food shows! How tight can that sweater get , folks? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:27 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cheryl ]<br>Jill, you crack me up. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:28 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>I've got the original Julia Child show on DVD - very educational and fun.  On the Wine & Cheese show you can tell she'd been imbibing long before she went on camera, plus no cleavage. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:28 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>littlepika, that's why The Frugal Gourmet was good, and also Jacques Pepin keeps that in mind. He's a great guy. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:29 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cheryl ]<br>Have you guys seen a website called <a href="http://Rouxbe.com" target="blank" >Rouxbe.com</a>?  It's Canadian, and they teach you how to cook but don't show any faces or bodies.  Just hands.  So it's really about the food, rather than the personalities.  Definitely no cleavage there, unless finger cleavage counts. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:29 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Sounds great, Cheryl! Do you think we'll be watching more cooking shows via computer anytime soon? Or is that already happening for you? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:29 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>As if you can't cook good food if you're wearing jeans, khakis or sweat pants, and a tee shirt. Of course, you have to look good on TV but let's get "real" </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:30 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From littlepika ]<br>A favorite hot weather dinner in our house is tacos with homemade salsa, can of black beans, maybe some guac and queso fresco, use good corn tortillas (either from a latino store or homemade from masa... so easy, who knew?)  The only stove time is for the tortillas! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:30 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Last night, we had black beans (so lucky to have local source of dried beans here in Seattle) with a tomatillo sauce I whipped up, corn tortillas. So satisfying. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:31 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cheryl ]<br>Hmm, no, I can't do too many things while I'm cooking.  I'm not someone who generally has her laptop in the kitchen. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:31 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From littlepika ]<br>I grew up watching Julia Child with my grandma when I got home from school.  She'd fix me blintzes we'd sit there and eat and laugh together.  Wonderful memory and probably helped turn me into someone who loves to cook! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:31 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I used to go to a neighbor's house -- Mrs. karl -- and when she wasn't in kitchen, she was watching Julia. It was mesmerizing for me. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:32 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Kim, do you cook your tomatillo sauce? I like it both raw and cooked but wonder/ </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:32 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I like to blanch the tomatillos for about 90 seconds. going to share recipe details in my True/Slant column tomorrow. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:33 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>littlepika - you could easily add corn to that hot weather dinner. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:33 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cheryl ]<br>Blintzes!  When was the last time I had a decent blintz... {sigh} </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:33 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I can't remember myself, Cheryl. Maybe we can work on this for the fall? What's your fave? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:33 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy ]<br>I love variations of Rick Bayless's tomatillo sauces/salsas... tomatillos and garlic are all roasted. I do mine in big batches under the broiler, then freeze sauce. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:34 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Oh, that's a fun idea, Cindy.   Happy to report I've got sauce in the freezer too! It's such a treat when weather gets colder. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:34 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>I've only ever cooked tomatillo salsa.  What changes should I make for raw?  Just treat it like a regular salsa cruda? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:34 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Interesting how food memories are often more about the experience than always the actual food. They are so interrelated. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:35 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Yes, they are, Jill. Food really is in everything we do -- no matter where we live, how we came into this world, the size of our pocketbook, our religion, politics... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:36 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jo in Maryland ]<br>Kim -- I seem to remember that you can do this, but I thought I'd better ask you -- after marinating (such as chicken) can you then boil the leftover marinade (that was used) add a little wine (other suggestions?) and bring to a boi to use as a sauce? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:37 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hi Jo! You can do that -- but be careful. Make sure you get that leftover marinade up to boiling point. My preference is to set some aside for sauce. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:37 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>We all need to eat everyday. And it's the most common language along with music and other activities that bring joy (along with grief for some). </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:37 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From littlepika ]<br>Jill, that's so true.  Those blintzes were Golden's frozen ones and frankly?  Not that great.  But the memory of the whole experience is enduring.  I visited Julia's kitchen at the Smithsonian last weekend and it all came back to me.  Good blintzes would be a blast though! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:38 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Speaking of Julia, and all the buzz about Julie & Julia movie -- anyone going to see it? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:39 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From littlepika ]<br>I admit I am intrigued (an unpopular position it seems in the food world), but probably will wait until DVD. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:39 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Think I'm going to wait a bit myself. There has been SO MUCH press -- both positive and negative -- and then press about the press! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:40 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>On a completely different topic, has anyone heard that canola oil is made from a chemical that comes from the thyroid of a pig? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:40 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;REALLY? Whoa. Talk to us, Jill. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:41 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>I have a theater near me that serves wine and you can sit in high back chairs to watch Julie & Julia. That sounds like great fun. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:41 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Here's something I've been wanting to know -- when you think about food lit and/or media -- what do you think is missing? What would you like to see more of? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:42 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>I'm still mourning the real Julia, so I'll probably skip the film.  I really liked what Julie, did, though and I think it's fun that she's received some recognition to boot. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:42 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Julia's birthday is Aug 15, by the way! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:42 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Someone sent me a link to something on Yahoo and it sounds so crazy. Here it is: <a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070603121731AACnpJn" target="blank" >http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070603121731AACnpJn</a> Just wonder who puts this stuff out there or if there is truth? conspiracy? Why delve so deep? And who really cares? PETA? (And I am sometimes on their side.) </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:43 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Would be interesting to find out if it's really true. I'll see what I can dig up. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:43 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>Canola comes from rapeseeds.  That should be the only ingredient.  It's called Canola because "rapeseed" isn't very marketable. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:44 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I have a nutritionist friend who does a lot of research. I'll ask her if this has hit her radar. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:44 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>I like real stories of real people and their trials and tribulations. The celebrity hype doesn't work for me which is why the Food Network isn't my thing. Deep writing on an emotional level that makes me laugh, cry, scream, think. Did I say think? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:46 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Oh! Almost forgot -- Aug 20 is when we'll do a home canning/preserving/pickling chat. And by the way --<a href="http://www.cansacrossamerica.wordpress.com" target="blank" >Canning Across America</a> -- the project I've been working on for past few weeks is giving away free Ball guides! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:46 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Thanks Kim. Was sent to me by a manufacturer of vegan product that had someone else hound her about the canola oil. I never heard that before. I am a curious sort. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:46 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jenny A ]<br>I remember watching Julia Child when my mom would tune in.  I think Mom was a little disconcerted to have her 8 year old ask about cooking crepes and chateau briande.  Later, I helped take care of my grandmother, she had Alzheimers.  We would watch Julia's shows on PBS, they kept Grandmom very entertained. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:47 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;But I bet it cemented a passion for you,Jenny, n'est-ce pas? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:47 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From GirlScoutMom ]<br>My Mom & sister & I are planning to see Julie & Julia together. Sounds like fun! I really enjoyed Julia's "My Life in France" and reading Julie's blog. Although I hear Julia wasn't too thrilled about Julie's work, I bet they would actually have gotten along. Plenty of the "what the heck, try it!" spirit. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:48 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I liked Powell's blog more than I liked her book. LIked the immediacy of it. HIghly recommend "My LIfe in France" -- such fun, I agree. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:49 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Does anyone here use Twitter or Facebook to connect to food world   -- or other food networks --- Blogher, for example? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:49 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy ]<br>I just wanted to point out the Snopes article on Canola: <a href="http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/canola.asp" target="blank" >http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/canola.asp</a> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:50 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>I love the memories of Julia for people and what they mean. She was truly larger than life and at the same time really didn't get that she was a celebrity or had more pull than most people. She was amazing that way as she felt like everywoman. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:51 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Well said, Jill. There's no one else quite like her the way she captivated us, and I doubt there will ever be anyone like her. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:51 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jenny A ]<br>Yes it did!  (And I like the idea of sipping a good wine while watching Julie and Julia). </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:52 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jenny A ]<br>It IS time for making brandied peaches for Christmas, isn't it? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:52 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Yes, it is! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:53 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>You know that you can find me on Twitter @theveggiequeen and on Facebook as my friend (I don't like the fan thing at all) by my name at Jill Nussinow. I love that social media to connect with other food, sustainable ag (and more) people. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:54 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>I googled canola and pig thyroid and the only references I found in a quick review were the effects on pigs' thyroids when they're fed canola meal as a part of their diet.  I definitely distrust the article link since I can't find anything more definitive and (call me a snob) because it's so poorly written. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:55 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy ]<br>I use twitter in the same way as veggie queen - i have a few local growers, other sustainable/local food writers, and some restaurants. I find they are good for staying in touch with local happenings. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:55 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Thanks for the Snopes link. It's what I think, too, but you get one person going on something and then they want to attack anyone using a product. Leave it alone, I say. Just eat and enjoy it -- but mostly real food. (My friend Michael Pollan said it well.) </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:56 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From littlepika ]<br>I still can't quite figure out how twitter is helpful with cooking stuff. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:56 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>Maybe people here want to share their Twitter names so that we can be sure to connect there? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:57 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From littlepika ]<br>Ooops, hit return too quickly.  Don't like the quickie recipes and mostly it just seems like links to blog entries, etc. that I already read. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:58 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Twecipes are an interesting phenom! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:58 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy ]<br>Re: littlepika, i find it's helpful with regular blogs I read... they have extra tidbits that aren't in their regular columns. Also, there are a few blogs I don't subscribe to their RSS, but like articles... I follow them on twitter and get little pings if they have a new article. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:59 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I'm at <a href="http://twitter.com/kimodonnel" target="blank" >twitter.com/kimodonnel</a>, by the way! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:59 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy ]<br>E.g. I found out about this chat from Kim's twitter feed! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">10:59 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Wow! How cool. thanks for letting me know, Cindy. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:00 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Please let me know, by the way, of topics you'd like covered in future chats. I'm very open. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:00 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>"Twecipes" sound like something Tweety Bird would say. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:00 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>See Kim, Twitter works. How cool is that? For those of us who sit behind our computer too much, I find Twitter and Facebook a way to be social without going out (although I do that, too, sometimes). </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:01 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>I've enjoyed the seasonal nature of the chats so far. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:01 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I've been thinking of doing a fruit-focused chat -- how does that sound? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:02 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From littlepika ]<br>Yes to fruity chat!  Our fridge and counters are full of fruit these days (and fruit flies unfortunately). </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:02 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Cindy ]<br>In terms of restaurants, lots of ones close to me have twitter only specials. It's really fun! A champagne bar does "Speakeasy Sundays" where you have to have a password to get $5 glasses of bubbly. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:02 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>heh heh - how about a chat on compassionate carnivory??  You really got us all going yesterday at true/slant. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:03 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Linear -- quite the hot topic, no? Can certainly mull it over -- maybe I could invite author to join? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:03 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Jill, The Veggie Queen ]<br>I was just sending email about local fruit to a neighbor so that we can set up a fruit exchange. Fruit is my favorite thing to can or dry because it reminds me of the seasons and what was and what's to come. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:03 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From GirlScoutMom ]<br>Fruit chat is a great idea! I always pick too many peaches at the pick-your-own farm and my own wild blackberries went crazy this year. I've made 3 batches of jam! Need new ideas. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:04 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Okay, it's settled. Next week -- Aug 13 -- we've got a fruit chat!<br />That's all for today, gang. Thanks for dropping in and for sharing your insight. Take care, talk soon either here or in the twitterverse. <br />All best. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertextcolor" nowrap style="width: 45px;">11:04 </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewer_text">[Comment From Linear Girl ]<br>I like the idea of getting authors to join in to discuss their books. </td></tr></table></div>

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