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Table Talk: April 23

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[/wiki/Kitchenwitch "Kitchen witches" newpage=true] are said to bring good luck to the kitchen, which is all good and well, but if you need more than luck — advice or know-how, say — tune in to Kim O'Donnel's "Table Talk," a live web chat, Thursdays at 10 a.m. PT, 1 p.m. ET. See you here!

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 </div><div class="cilblogholder"><div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:07</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hey everyone! So sorry I had a tech glitch! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:07</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Greetings from the desert! I am typing to you from the very sunny and Vitamin D-enriched Desert Hot Springs, Calif., where my Mister and I are enjoying a few days away from the rat race.   We're holed up in a groovy little place called Miracle Manor, which boasts amazing views of the San Jacinto mountains, with amazing ad other-worldy wind mind farms in the distance.   It's about 82 here, with nary a drop of humidity.   We've got a mineral pool outside our room, heated to 98 degrees, and it comes straight from hot springs.   Relaxing and rejuvenating doesn't accurately describe the feeling. <br />This is palm date country, and I"m told the local specialty is a date shake, as in a vanilla milk shake studded with local dates. I plan on sharing one of these with my human date later today. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:08</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From mamster]<br>Kim, you poor, poor thing. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:08</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;HA! I know, life is tough. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:09</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;<br /><br />groovy hotel alert: <a href="http://www.miraclemanor.com" target="blank" >Miracle Manor</a> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:09</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Terp in the Kitchen]<br>Kim, so glad to see you online again - first new chat i've been able to join. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:10</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;So it's the day after Earth Day. I had the opportunity to interview Kate Heyhoe, the author of "Cooking Green," an intriguing new work focused not just on what we eat, but how we cook it and what we cook it with.   Heyhoe is asking us to explore our "cookprint," a term she's coined to describe the amount of energy we   use when we cook. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:11</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Erin]<br>I have a kitchen witch! :)  I was cleaning out the pantry and came across a beautiful jar of Hungarian wax peppers from last summer's farmer's market. Other than a spicy sandwich condiment, where/how else can I use them up? After all, I'll need to make room for another beautiful jar or two at the end of the summer... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:12</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Terp in the Kitchen]<br>catfish question (oops,  hit "return," and didn't realize it would send on my earlier message!): i saw somewhere recently that "most people fry catfish," and wondered if there was a reason. i've been very happy sauteeing my filets (turbot, tilapia) recently, and was planning on doing the same with some catfish i got, but that writing gave me pause. advice on quick catfish cooking that's not fried (not practical with a small child in the house) </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:13</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;In fact, Kim, we're giving away two copies of Cooking Green, Kate Heyhoe's book, tomorrow morning (Friday) at 10 a.m. PT. Folks should just leave a comment on this page, with contact info, and they're entered in our random drawing. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:13</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia]<br>That was a good article.  I'm sorry to say that I'm not do as well I could with our cookprint.  I am trying to give up cooking altogether, though.  Does that count? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:14</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Thia! Why give up cooking, darlinn'? What's got you down? Or are you trying to do the raw thing? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:14</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Erin]<br>P.S. the MA column yesterday was great - used my toaster oven, rather han the "humvee" to keep the kids' dinner warm last night. Thanks! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:15</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Erin, I'm very curious about the toaster oven stuff that Heyhoe was talking <a href="http://about.Oh" target="blank" >about.Oh</a>, and she told me that the automatic ice maker that we all love? Tacks on an additional 15 percent to our energy output. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:15</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From mamster]<br>Hey, Kim, it's a bit late in the season for this, but I have a question about sweet potatoes and winter squash. I get them in my CSA basket, and I want to like them, but I mostly I find them too sweet. Do you have any ideas for emphasizing the more savory aspects of these guys...maybe something with a lot of acid? (I love lime juice!) </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:15</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;<p>Just to clarify: If you want to win Cooking Green, don't leave a comment on the chat -- but at the bottom of this Culinate page in our Comments section.</p> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:15</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia]<br>Kim, I'm just being lazy.  Lunch was leftovers and it doesn't get much easier than that.  Spaghetti from two days, raita from Sunday potluck and tamarind chutney from a jar. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:16</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Mamser, i LOVE sweet potatoes. Back east, you can even get them w/ the greens attached at the farm market. Me, I love'em roasted, then mixed inn with some choppped garlic and chiles.   They're also fab with a little red curry paste. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:17</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;If my mom will eat sweet potatoes this way, anyone can. She's a bit of a picky eater... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:18</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From mamster]<br>Red curry paste improves anything. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:19</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Mamster, you're preaching to the choir here. <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/mighty-appetite/2007/10/asweetpotatotwofer.html" target="blank" >Sweet Potato Two-Fer</a><br /> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:19</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Thia, where are you based? With spring crops appearing, it's hard not to get inspired. Do you need a new dish or two to get excited about? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:19</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia]<br>I have a staple tofu dish with red curry paste, coconut milk and lime juice.  Can't beat red curry paste.  Never tried it on sweet potatoes.  We just finished up ours, just baked and buttered. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:20</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia]<br>Kim, I'm in Arlington, Va </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:20</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Thia, pea shoots and leeks, baby kale are here...and soon come, asparagus! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:20</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Kristin in Arlington]<br>Hi Kim, </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:21</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia]<br>My wine guy said I need to get some ramps, which are now in season.  I've never had them.  What to do with them? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:22</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Yes ramps! There's a guest post on my blog this week- see it? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:22</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Erin]<br>ROAST THE RAMPS!  Pizza, baby!! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:22</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;<a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/mighty-appetite/2009/04/guestblogwildforramps.html" target="blank" >Wild for Ramps</a> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:22</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Erin]<br>Kim, have you experimented with coconut oil in your cooking or baking? I am looking to move away from butter, and have heard that despite its rather high saturated fat content, coconut oil is better for you (being plant-derived) and that it boosts metabolism and it has good antiseptic properties. To cover other options, I found Earth's Balance vegan "buttery" sticks - do you use them to replace all, or only half of the butter in your baking? Thank you! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:24</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Erin, I'm still not yet well schooled with coconut oil, but I'm very curious.   Bryant Terry, who's just written "Vegan Soul Kitchen," is a big fan. Anyone out there with first hand reports on playing w/ coconut oil? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:24</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Terp in the Kitchen]<br>i'm waiting...and waiting...and waiting...for asparagus. and loved the slew of spargel ideas on the culinate site - but they forgot the german version - spargel & speck, served lovingly with a crisp german white and more than a few real schnapps (not the crap syrupy stuff so common here) </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:24</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From mamster]<br>It's great for making homemade Magic Shell ice cream topping. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:25</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Erin, I'm a big fan of the Earth Balance. It's great for baking -- use it a lot in cakes, cookies. Not so great whe a recipe calls for melted butter...doesn't behave the same way. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:26</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Dan]<br>I bought a jar of coconut oil, but instead of putting it in food, I ended up using it as a skin cream -- it melts in your hand, goes on a little greasy and then disappears into your skin. I'd like to know how to cook with it too. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:26</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Terp in the Kitchen]<br>kim, you talk a lot about earth balance - what's the benefit of using it over butter? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:27</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;<p>mamster: do you have a recipe for homemade Magic Shell ice cream topping?</p> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:27</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Terp, for those who don't do dairy, it's a great substitute...but unlike margarine, it's unhydrogenated. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:27</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Erin]<br>EB sticks: no cholesterol </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:28</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From The Veggie Queen]<br>About coconut oil -- it is very saturated and does what it should in baking and cooking. I think that it's best for people in tropical areas and the jury is out on using it as the fat you use most. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:28</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From The Veggie Queen]<br>No cholesterol doesn't mean no fat so it's still good to pay attention to how much. The butter vs. Earth Balance debate is a good one. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:29</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Thanks Veggie Queen for your little grains of wisdom! Veggie Queen is also known as Jill Nussinow, cookbook author and nutritionist. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:29</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Kristin in Arlington]<br>Hi Kim, I need some inspiration for morels.  I love them and they have recently appeared at the farmer's market here. They are so delicious and beautiful but you don't get many for your money so they need some support.  I am vegan (recently after many years as a vegetarian), so I am looking for meat- and dairy-free ideas. Thanks! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:31</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I bet some folks are wondering how neutral in flavor the coconut oil is...does it have a distinct flavor? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:31</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From The Veggie Queen]<br>Thanks Kim.Krisitn, you are making me drool on my keyboard. I love morels. I hope that Kim tells you do something with peas and/or asparagus, rice, quinoa or pasta with your morels. Then invite me over. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:31</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia]<br>Kristin, the mushroom guys at the Arlington and Falls Church farmer markets probably have some morel ideas if no one here does </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:32</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From mamster]<br>Kim C, let me dig up that Magic Shell recipe. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:32</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From not mamster but...]<br>...i have one.  1 tbsp veg. shortening + big handful of chocolate chips or chopped up chocolate bar, microwave, stir until smooth, add to ice cream or between cake layers. add/substitute cream for a softer ganache. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:32</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From mamster]<br>Here you go: <a href="http://www.browniepointsblog.com/2008/03/28/make-your-own-junk-food-homemade-magic-shell/" target="blank" >http://www.browniepointsblog.com/2008/03/28/make-your-own-junk-food-homemade-magic-shell/</a> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:33</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;I wish I could enjoy morels, but I'm allergic. But pairing them with other spring arrivals --shelled peas and their shoots, asparagus -- is a lusty endeavor... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:33</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;Thanks! Dessert tonight. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:34</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Catsluvr]<br>Hi Kim, I am making the mahogany short ribs as I sit here at my desk at work.  They are in the slow cooker at home.  What I didn't realize is that teriyaki sauce has alcohol in it.  I am serving this tonite to a 2-1/2 yr. old.  Will that be okay?  Also, I added chopped garlic to the marinade which is now cooking the short ribs.  Will they be nice and tender after 12 hours in the slow cooker?  Thanks </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:34</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Morels are wonderful in risotto! Rice or barley variety... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:34</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From mamster]<br>Morels and ramps are awesome together. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:35</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Brilliant idea, mamster. You can't get much springier than that combo. Who's had a ramp in their lifetime? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:35</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Dawn]<br>Hi Kim, </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:35</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Catsluvr]<br>for the drawing:  <a href="mailto:catsluvr@yahoo.com" target="blank" >catsluvr@yahoo.com</a> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:36</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Kristin in Arlington]<br>I have used coconut oil for cookies, both the Nikki's Healthy Cookies that WashPost published a while back and a recent recipe from <a href="http://101cookbooks.com" target="blank" >101cookbooks.com</a> for Carrot Oatmeal Cookies. These are both dairy free and delicious, and I think the coconut oil adds some depth of flavor but it's not overpowering by any means. I do have some concerns about the saturated fat content, though, so I'd like to know more about the health implications. Earth Balance is great too! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:37</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Catsluvr, yep, you'll be fine. Most, if not all of that alcohol will burn off. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:37</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia]<br>But how does one cook ramps?  Sauteed, roasted, boiled, raw? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:38</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Ramps are wonderful grilled, sauteed, topped on pizza. Tim Fitzgerald, the guy who wrote the piece I linked to earlier, also throws'em into salads... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:38</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Dawn]<br>sorry, i had cake fail last night when I tried to make a double recipe of the guinness chocolate cake! I used one round pan and 12 cupcakes. The round pan cake over flowed and went all over my oven!  Should it have made something closer to 24 cupcakes in the double recipe? Thanks! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:38</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From The Veggie Queen]<br>I am a Registered Dietitian and I don't think that we really know the health implications of using a fair amount of coconut oil for those of us in the US because we haven't done so until recently. I think that too much fat is too much fat. That's why my agenda is vegetables. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:39</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia]<br>If you google coconut oil, you'll get lot of varying opinions on its health benefits.  There is much said about it. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:41</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hey Dawn, I have never made cupcakes fro the Guiess choc cake recipe. I am betting that a single batch would have made 12 just fine... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:41</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia ]<br>Funny how far we've strayed from your intended topic, Kim. Maybe people haven't thought much about it yet. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:42</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Thia, that's the funny thing about these chats. Usually people talk about what's close to their hearts -- and kitchens! Maybe today just isn't the day for green stuff... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:43</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From mamster ]<br>Kim, do you know anything about mirin? I buy the cheap sugar-water stuff, but there's this organic brand I've had recommended lately. Everyone (including Cook's Illustrated) says it's really good, but it's so expensive. Would I be able to tell the difference in cooking? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:43</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Great question, mamster. I have had mirin on my to-do list for some time. I am going to e-mail a contact in Japan, Elizabeth Andoh, who is an expert on Japanese cookery. Stay tuned for those details. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:44</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Terp in the Kitchen ]<br>sorry to bug the crowd, but does anyone have any suggestions re: my question on catfish? i don't want to cook it and end up with inedible :-( </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:45</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Terp, sorry we neglected your catfish issue! You wanna know what else to do w/ it beside deep fry, right? I like to pan-fry, also use in curry...who else has an idea? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:45</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From mamster ]<br>Hey, Terp, you can totally saute catfish. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:46</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia ]<br>I always use Eden mirin.  I think the brands you talk about have artificial color and other things that a purist might want to avoid.  Don't remember why exactly I don't buy it from Asian markets or the regular grocer.  It's been so long since I've need to buy a bottle. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:47</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Thanks, Thia. I really want to get to the bottom of this mirin thing now! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:47</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Terp in the Kitchen ]<br>thanks, mamster - so why would someone have written a comment like that - it was weird - online in a formal pub somewhere, but can't remember where </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:48</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia ]<br>I've read that you can subsitute sherry for mirin, but it will totally change the flavor of whatever you're cooking. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:48</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Shaoxing rice wine is great, too, but flavor too will be different... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:49</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From mamster ]<br>This is the fancy mirin brand people are talking about: <a href="http://www.simply-natural.biz/Mirin-Info.php" target="blank" >http://www.simply-natural.biz/Mirin-Info.php</a> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:49</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;OK, since we're talking mirin and Japanese cooking wines, I can bring up mamster's new column on Culinate, which is about sake:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.culinate.com/columns/bacon/sake" target="blank" >http://www.culinate.com/columns/bacon/sake</a><br /><br />   </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:50</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hey Thia, if you would't mind, send me a tiny url for that link. It's incredibly long! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:51</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Erin ]<br>Catfish is pretty bland on it's own, so definitely use the cooking method (other than frying) to punch up the flavor. I've poached fillets with citrus, white wine, aromatics... the possibilities are endless. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:52</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Old school, but blackened catfish is pretty darn tasty. Pan-fried, finished in oven, some rice, a quick veggie saute and you're in business. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:52</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia ]<br>I hope this is better:  <a href="http://www.g-chef.com/english/articles/mirin.html" target="blank" >http://www.g-chef.com/english/articles/mirin.html</a> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:52</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia ]<br>My tastebuds can't seem to wrap their little heads around the taste of sake.  I try to like it, but it doesn't happen. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:52</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Funny, I really like sake hot but don't care for it when served cold. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:53</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Erin ]<br>Catfish: also saw a fish n' chips recipe from Cooking Light, involving creating a fluffy batter, dipping the fillets, and then baking until crisp. It was pretty good, but I do not have a link... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:53</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;That could be fun, Erin! Like this idea. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:54</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Fyi, next week's chat -- Thurs Apr 30 -- will be devoted to meatless eating, cooking and shopping! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:56</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From The Veggie Queen ]<br>I will put next week on my calendar now. I may have something to add to the chat. I have meatless love. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:56</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Veggie Queen, I think you may have more than one or two things up your sleeve! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:56</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Terp in the Kitchen ]<br>thanks, everyonen for the catfish suggestions - how do i do blackened? is it just about the seasoning? will definitely try the poaching w/ aromatics, too - any suggestions? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:56</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim C.</strong>: &nbsp;<p>Kim and others: the next time you're in PDX you'll have to check out the fab sakes at Tanuki. I've become a huge fan of the stuff. Chilled, please.</p> </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:57</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Terp, what I'd do is create a spice rub, but before patting it down, brushing with oil. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:57</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia ]<br>Does anyone have solar oven?  How well does it work? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:58</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Wow, solar oven. Would love to know more about this! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:59</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Wondering if everyone here today can tell one friend about our new little chat fest every Thursday? And then that friend will tell another friend... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:59</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From The Veggie Queen ]<br>I've seen some in action. Saw people baking cookies in it on a hot day. Not good temperature control, though, but it does work. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:59</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From The Veggie Queen ]<br>Can we put it on Twitter? I am going to promote meatless next week. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:59</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;TWitter to your hearts' content!! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">10:59</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Mark Douglas</strong>: &nbsp;Sign up for a reminder for next week's chat  here:  http://www.culinate.com/columns/tabletalk/tt20090430 </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">11:00</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Terp in the Kitchen ]<br>what, kim, you getting tired of us already? but yes, will spread the word! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">11:00</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Terp in the Kitchen ]<br>and what goes into a spice rub for traditional blackened spices? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">11:01</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Hey Terp, I've got a little ditty that I've used for tilapia.<a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/mighty-appetite/2008/03/rediscoveringtilapia.html" target="blank" > Rediscovering Tilapia</a>.<br />Use as a model... </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">11:01</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From Thia ]<br>Thanks, Kim, for the chat. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">11:02</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Thanks Tia and to all of you for dropping by! Type to you next week! </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilviewertext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">11:02</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilviewertext">[Comment From mongolian ]<br>I'm a beginner chef and I love mushrooms.  Bought some portobellos on sale the other day and cut off all the spongy black stuff on the bottom side of the caps before cooking in a risotto.  Was I supposed to do that?  I lose a fair bit of mushroom in the process but I wasn't sure if I wanted floofy soft bits in my food.  Or do those actually taste good? </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">11:04</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Kim ODonnel</strong>: &nbsp;Mongolian, the floofy bits are a personal preference. When I was able to eat mushrooms, I used to remove, but you don't have to. For me, it's an esthetic thing. </td></tr></table></div>
<div class="cilchatmsg" ><table><tr valign="top"><td class="cilmsgtime cilhosttext" nowrap><div style="width: 45px;">11:05</div> </td><td class="cilmsgtext cilhosttext"><strong>Mark Douglas</strong>: &nbsp;Sign up for a reminder for next week's chat <a href="http://www.culinate.com/columns/tabletalk/tt20090430" target="blank">here</a> &nbsp;(corrected to be a link)<br> 
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